saw barack obama come out and calling it not a coup but a military intervention, his words, but there was a sort of period that went on for two weeks, and this happened on july 3, if i have the timeline correctly. people sort of hedged their bets and take their time and follow the timeline of diplomacy rather than the timeline of the way things are unfolding on the streets of cairo. we come back to washington. >> no, i do not think so, because during the time period we are talking about, a joint diplomatic endeavor with the uae, i believe it was, in cairo, and you had, i think, a kind of very real hope that, as i said earlier, all of this could be put quickly on the rails, and you could avoid this uncomfortable discussion for washington, was it military, was it not, and what you have now is a completely different situation. it is completely radicalized, where you have no apparent room for compromise, and a consistent upping of the rhetoric, i would say -- >> the two u.s. senators, john mccain and lindsey graham, they went to cairo, and they were talking about the military.